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Posted By admin On 24.02.20Howdy gang, So I recently picked up a lovely little SE/30 from our very own khannonnd - he supplied the Mac, I supplied a keyboard and mouse. It boots nicely from the original internal HDD (no frozen-spindle syndrome here, thankfully) and appears functional overall. Other than just being very fond of SE/30's in general, this one is of special interest since it features an Asante Ethernet board - something I've been looking to acquire for years without much luck. This Mac currently boots to a lightly-customized System 7.5 (plain 7.5 that is, not 7.5.x), and has a few applications that could theoretically use Ethernet for connectivity: Netscape Navigator 2.x, NCSA Telnet 2.6, Fetch FTP, etc. How to stop the hxxp://security-scan.xyz popup scam for mac. But in no case have I been able to get any communication in or out of the machine.
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I've been playing with it on my desk at work connected to our corporate LAN (and I've also tried running it into my modern desktop Mac with AirPort-to-Ethernet sharing enabled) but I just keep going in circles, and I can't tell at this point if I'm missing some essential driver, or if I have MacTCP mis-configured, or if there's a hardware failure at play here. So, here's my 'let's start from scratch and think this through logically' question: I'm not seeing any files anywhere on the drive that seem directly related to the Ethernet board - nothing labeled Asante in the System Folder, etc. Given this, is it even realistic to expect that System 7.5 could pick up an IP address even if all the Control Panels are configured properly? Thanks for any hints in the right direction - I haven't paid khannonnd for this Mac yet, and I'd love to know if the Ethernet setup actually works before we figure out a mutually-agreeable price! So I recently got a Performa 636CD and put in a farallon 10baseT comm slot card in. When I tried to connect it to my 2011 MacBook Pro, it didn't work until I went into the advanced settings for Ethernet in the Network System Preferences and manually set the speed to 10baseT half-duplex.
The 636 Ethernet was too old to autonegotiate the speed with the newer Mac. On the other hand, hooking the old Mac onto my network with a switch works fine, but, for you, it will depend on the feature set of your work's network setup as to whether it will connect correctly or not. As to the software, some 3rd party Ethernet adapters work with the built-in drivers, IIRC. You may have to dig some up, though. Try MacGUI or the Mac garden for those. To check to see in its at least talking, connect it to your modern Mac and make sure the modern machine is making a valid connection (not reporting 'Cable Unplugged' in the Ethernet section of the Network System Preferences.
Again, you may have to force a speed and duplex setting in system preferences. Try them all to find the best one.
Edited December 22, 2016 by BlueBoy. So I recently got a Performa 636CD and put in a farallon 10baseT comm slot card in. When I tried to connect it to my 2011 MacBook Pro, it didn't work until I went into the advanced settings for Ethernet in the Network System Preferences and manually set the speed to 10baseT half-duplex. The 636 Ethernet was too old to autonegotiate the speed with the newer Mac. On the other hand, hooking the old Mac onto my network with a switch works fine, but, for you, it will depend on the feature set of your work's network setup as to whether it will connect correctly or not. As to the software, some 3rd party Ethernet adapters work with the built-in drivers, IIRC. You may have to dig some up, though.
Try MacGUI or the Mac garden for those. To check to see in its at least talking, connect it to your modern Mac and make sure the modern machine is making a valid connection (not reporting 'Cable Unplugged' in the Ethernet section of the Network System Preferences. Again, you may have to force a speed and duplex setting in system preferences.
Try them all to find the best one. Super helpful tips and info here - thanks!
I never thought to tinker with the settings of the modern Mac to ensure that they could communicate, so I'll definitely look into that. When I've tried running the SE/30 into the LAN at my office, I've used a small Linksys switch but didn't get too far. I'm going to bring the old Mac home over the holiday break and test there - it's entirely possible that the LAN at my office is too heavily restricted to allow what I'm trying to do, and now I'm wondering if one of our network admins hasn't been scratching his head while looking at network-access attempts that look 25 years out of date. Huxley, In the past couple of weeks, I have succeeded in getting an SE/30 on my modern network with a MacCon ethernet card, so I think I can help you.
The one piece of software that is going to help you the most here is the Asante EtherTalk installer, available here on this dude's site as asante561.sea.hqx — That software claims to install the correct TCP/IP applications for as low as System 6, although I haven't tried anything other than 7.5.5. You're going to need to get that file onto the SE/30, of course, which will take a floppy. Format the disk in the SE/30, then, if you have a USB floppy drive and a PC, you can move the file to the disk by installing the program MacDisk. You may first need to install the demo of another program, MacDrive, in order for MacDisk to function correctly. Don't pay for MacDrive.
Keep in mind that your Asante card is 10baseT and will not function if your router is pushing gigabit speeds to it. This is easily remedied by connecting the card to a WiFi bridge or older router that will either dynamically change the speed of the connection down to 10/100, or let you choose the speed in the router settings. I have mine plugged into a Netgear N300 range extender, available on Amazon or even on the shelf at Best Buy, which is connected to a 2.4GHz WiFi signal from my modern router, and that worked fine.
I believe I entered the MAC address of the SE/30 into the settings on the range extender to give it a static IP address, but that may not have been necessary. Also, check the switch on the back of the Asante daughter card, next to the Ethernet port. If yours is like mine, it needs to be in the 'top' position. I've got my SE/30 online with email, file sharing and printing, so once you get it online and need some advice in those areas, hit me up. John Edited December 22, 2016 by jrwil. Hey John, I'm really interested - what application are you using for email? Short answer: Musashi 3.4.1.
Long answer: Email on the SE/30 is tricky. No clients (to my knowledge) support SSL, required by all modern email servers, and that limits you right out of the gate. The bare minimum modern standard you need is SMTP authentication, and only a handful of clients for System 7.5.5 support it (Musashi, SweetMail, Green, Mulberry). Even if you have one of those clients, you need a modern email service that will let you log in without SSL, which do exist, although who knows for how long. I pointed a subdomain I have to a service called ZazzoWeb, which is about $2 a month for an email address.
I forwarded my Gmail to that address, and set my Gmail address as the 'Reply-To' in the email client on the SE/30. Others have successfully implemented an SSL tunnel to get their Gmail on their 68k Mac with an older client, but I gave up on it. The upside to my method is you don't have to have a helper Mac. There is also a utility floating around called Baton Mail that was used to add SMTP Auth capabilities to older Mac clients by sending outgoing mail to Baton Mail, but I had limited success with it. Musashi works very well with only minor hiccups and quirks. I prefer SweetMail which you can customize to no end, but the typing lag is pretty bad, even with max RAM. I have an SE/30 with 32 Megs of RAM running 7.5.3.
It is equipped with an Asante MacCon+ ethernet card. When I connect the ethernet card to my router (NetGear Prosafe switch) I do get a green light at the card and at the router and some activity. I have installed the Asante drivers referemced in the post above and the installation reported as being successful.
The MacTCP is set manually. However when I go to 'network' under the control panel and attempt to set it to ethertalk, the system responds with 'could not switch to ethertalk due to an error. Your connection will be reset to LocalTalk.'
I have tried the Asante Troubleshooter v1.7.1 but the only test that passes is the memory buffer test. The other tests result in a NIC transmission failed. The ADLS 1.6 tool from Asante fails also but I assume that this is due to the fact that I couldn't select ethertalk. Any help would be appreciated. Hosting your own mail server is another intriguing possibility. Then again, those are just different hoops!
Note that I have had success with the Stunnel application installed on a RaspberryPi. STunnel provides the necessary SSL/TLS security to connect to modern email services such as Gmail. The email client on the vintage computer can simply rely on password-based authentication and is pointed to the raspberryIP for both its POP and SMTP servers (on different ports of course).
Stunnel then listens to requests against those ports and relays the requests via SSL/TLS to Gmail to send and/or retrieve mail. You can also run Stunel on a Windows PC on your network and I assume that a similar application is available on Mac OS as well.
I personally use this approach to send/receive emails from my Apple IIGS via the SAM2 email client. It works flawlessly. That is cool. Having it on a Pi would make for an efficient setup. This guide seems straightforward enough: — is this more or less how you set it up? What email client do you prefer? As for your ethernet issue — I don't think you should be seeing the Network control panel at all.
You should be dealing with the TCP/IP panel, configured to using Ethernet and DHCP server. Do you have Open Transport turned on by using the Network Software Selector, found in the Apple Extras folder? Edited December 29, 2016 by Bunsen https://wiki.68kmla.org/index.php/68kMLA:ForumRules#Noexcessivequoting. Thanks, I went ahead and now selected OT from the Network Software Selector and I do indeed now see TCP/IP as part of the control panels. It is set as connect to Ethernet and configured to using DHCP sever. All fields now indicate 'will be supplied by server' and the 'search domains' box is blank.
What other settings do I need to do/enter? As for the Stunnel, the link that you have is a good reference but I can provide much simpler installation notes if you are interested. I don't have an email client of choice for the Mac yet, I have only used it with the IIGS where SAM2 is excellent as an email client and easy to configure. Edited December 29, 2016 by Bunsen https://wiki.68kmla.org/index.php/68kMLA:ForumRules#Noexcessivequoting. Search domains can be blank. Now, assuming your network card doesn't have any issues, and that the switch on it is on the right position, the rest is up to your router.
Reboot and see if you get anything in TCP/IP. Confirm that the router port is set for 10mbps speeds and not gigabit speeds. I put in the SE/30's MAC address in my router and assigned it a static IP address, but not sure if I needed to. If you want your MAC address, go to File Get Info in the TCP/IP panel.
I'd indeed be interested to hear more about your Stunnel/Pi setup. Tried to do an SSL tunnel on my modern iMac and could get the 68k email client to connect and begin to send a message, but it would always stall. I placed the switch in the top position as per your earlier post. Now when I do the TCP/IP get info, none of the addresses are available for the macintosh, the hardware address or the router. It only specifies the addresses of Open Transport and TCP/IP, both as 1.1. Now I assume that my network doesn't have any issues but are there any tests that can be performed against it to make sure? Via the control panels' AppleTalk, do you also set AppleTalk to connect via Ethernet?
To install/run STunnel on the Raspi: install Stunnel: sudo apt-get install stunnel4 to edit stunnel config file (see below): sudo vim /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf run Stunnel: sudo stunnel4 /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf For Stunnel, here is the simple config file that you will need on the Raspi. Thanks for the Raspberry Pi info! What model device do you have, just out of curiosity? The AppleTalk control panel won't affect your ethernet connection.
The router side is important because many modern routers won't step down the speed of the port. In the case of my ISP, for instance, they block the ability to change the port speed because they don't provide support for equipment old enough to require 10mbps. Log in to your router — probably via 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 — and check out its control panel to see if you can change the port speed. If it's giving the MacCon gigabit speeds, it just won't work.
Make sure the switch position is right for your model card — it could be different from mine — but I'll bet that's probably the correct spot. I find it interesting that my main Asante board (the one that connects to the mobo) and its daughter board are labeled differently.
The main board reads 'Mac CON for IIsi, SE30, P/N 09-00005-00 REV c2'. The daughter board on the other hand read 'MacCon+ TK/TP rev B'.
When it comes to installing the Asante drivers onto the SE/30 under 7.5.3 it makes things a little confusing. By default the Asante driver installer v5.6.1, if left in 'easy install' mode, proposes to install the 'Asante Ethertalk NuBus/PDS Driver'. But is that indeed the correct choice for the cards that I have installed? What driver and driver version would you recommend for the card that I have?
1998 – does something I didn’t understand for a long time: he recommends using a or – or whatever your slowest Mac is – as a file server! He recommends this for small office setups, not graphic departments. I can see where it’s an inexpensive solution, but I couldn’t understand why it was a good solution. Now it makes sense to me. Although some of us still use poky old for networking, the standard in business is 10 Mbps (megabits per second, note lower case b) using coaxial or twisted-pair wiring.
Although this is rated as a 10 Mbps protocol, real world performance rarely hits that level. Looking over my Retrospect backup logs at work on a 10Base-T network, I note that top throughput is rarely over 5 Mbps using TCP/IP. The less efficient AppleTalk protocol hits about half that. Granting that there is overhead for reading and writing data during backup, plus keeping a backup catalog, normal ethernet can hit maybe 8 Mbps with TCP/IP and 5 Mbps with AppleTalk. There are two factors that determine network throughput: How fast a computer can prepare the data for transmission (i.e., read it from the hard drive) and how many bits per second the networking software and hardware allow. SCSI Throughput Mac users love SCSI because it has great bandwidth. Even the original SCSI standard supports up to 5 MBps (megabytes per second, note upper case B), although earlier Macs couldn’t achieve that speed.
Today’s Ultra SCSI is four times faster, although few drives can read or write beyond 12 MBps – and most are in the 6-8 MBps range. This is also true of better IDE drives. (Older drives, like older computers, tend to be slower.) All of these are faster than ethernet: IDE, SCSI-1, USB, and 16x or faster CD-ROM drives. Converted to the language of networking (bits per second, not bytes), a good hard drive today can read and write data at 40-100 Mbps. This is well beyond the capacity of 10 Mbps ethernet and helps explain the growing popularity of 100 Mbps ethernet.
Older Macs The had a decent SCSI port in its day, providing 1.35 MBps throughput or 11 Mbps. – slightly faster than regular ethernet and as nearly fast as the new USB (universal serial bus) in. This means that any Mac with a or CPU has the potential to saturate a 10 Mbps ethernet network. (You also need a drive that supports 1.35 MBps throughput, which a lot of old drives couldn’t do.
The February 1990 MacUser tested 101 hard drives, none of which achieved 7 Mbps. Today’s faster mechanisms with large onboard caches unleash the full potential of the SCSI bus on these older Macs.) In terms of network throughput (and only in terms of network throughput), there is nothing to be gained from using a Quadra or Power Mac server on a normal 10Base-T ethernet network. But Scott recommends even less powerful computers, which baffled me. The has very poor SCSI throughput, something on the order of 2 Mbps (0.25 MBps). But unless you’re saving large files, even that may be adequate.
The problem with the Plus is putting it on ethernet, which requires either a LocalTalk-to-Ethernet adapter (such as Farallon’s EtherMac, which also drives the serial port faster than usual) or a SCSI-to-ethernet adapter. Maximum throughput with EtherMac is about 0.4 Mbps, making it a poor choice. But the SCSI adapter will run at full SCSI speed.
Better than the Plus is the. First, because it has better SCSI support than the Plus, up to two-and-a-half times faster.
That translates to 5.1 Mbps,. using up to half of ethernet’s 10 Mbps bandwidth and about as much bandwidth as AppleTalk can use on a regular ethernet. Second, with luck and patience you can find an ethernet card that fits the SE expansion slot. This can be significantly less expensive than SCSI or EtherWave adapters, making the SE a wonderful file server. Picking Your Server Scott recommends using and setting.
AppleShare 3 will run on a Plus, SE, Mac II, and subsequent Macs. The biggest limitations are a maximum of 120 users and incompatibility with virtual memory and RAM Doubler – not a big drawback in the small office. A Plus or SE with 4 MB of RAM leaves about 2 MB free. Set the maximum allowed disk cache (the disk cache is much faster than reading data from the SCSI port).
The biggest drawbacks of the 68000-based Macs are limited RAM, which limits the size of the disk cache, and poor latency. Another good low-cost solution is an or with 10 MB RAM and an ethernet card. Despite their 16-bit data path, even these can match an ethernet network’s bandwidth.
With a VGA adapter, they can run without a monitor, keeping costs down. You can create a larger disk cache as you increase RAM. A favorite choice is the: compact, fast enough, plus a built-in 9″ screen.
Best of all, if you can afford it, you can boost RAM to 128 MB and have a positively huge disk cache. The 16 MHz CPU is really a minimum for good server response. Anything in the Mac II series can provide all the throughput 10 Mbps ethernet can handle. For small files, they’re great. Other Factors Then why did everyone switch to Quadra servers – and later to Power Macs? Didn’t they do the math? In most cases, no, we didn’t do the math.
We were surprised that AppleShare 4 wasn’t any faster than AppleShare 3, but assumed that had to do with new features and the new CPU. So we upgraded. What Do You Gain with a Faster Server? In most cases, the faster CPU means the computer has an easier time tracking multiple users (this is why Scott recommends this for small offices). It looks through the file directory and disk cache more quickly, reducing latency (the time between your requesting a file and the server finding it).
You usually have the potential for adding more RAM, which can further reduce latency through the use of a larger disk cache. But the benefit of 2 MBps (on a ), 3.4 MBps (Quadras), or faster SCSI is lost on a 10Mbps ethernet network. As for RAID, it’s overkill on 10Base-T ethernet. The network itself remains a data bottleneck. 100 Mbps Ethernet Of course, all this changes with 100 Mbps ethernet.
Although it doesn’t currently run ten times faster than 10 Mbps ethernet on a Macintosh (more like 3-5 times faster), for moving lots of data, it beats the slower ethernet hands down. The ceiling on 100 Mbps ethernet seems to be 30-45 Mbps, which is about the top speed of SCSI on a Quadra. (Interestingly, it’s also about the top speed for cable modems, explaining the 10Base-T port on the iMac.) This is part of the reason graphic departments and others moving multi-megabyte files love 100 Mbps ethernet. Four times faster means a lot when it takes several minutes to move your files. Update: Mac OS 8.5 has more native PowerPC code and uses Open Transport 2, which overcomes some system bottlenecks and allows the Mac to take better advantage of 100 Mbps ethernet.
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Other Protocols. LocalTalk: The other common networking scheme in the Mac world is LocalTalk, which runs at 230.4 kbps – about 1/40 the speed of 10Base-T ethernet. Or floppy disks may be a faster way to move files, but even a lowly Mac Plus is more than enough file server on LocalTalk. FireWire: Some years ago, Apple developed, a high speed serial protocol to replace SCSI. Offering speeds of up to 400 Mbps, it should become a viable alternative when computers start using it.
Far faster than even 100 Mbps ethernet, FireWire will be another way to link computers together. USB: Apple is just starting to use the universal serial bus (USB), a 12 Mbps serial protocol. You can look at it as the poor man’s FireWire or souped up ADB. Although only one-third the speed of SCSI-1, USB is faster than 10 Mbps ethernet, meaning a USB drive on a server would not be a liability.
(How’s that for thinking different?) Conclusion Unless you have a lot of network users making simultaneous use of your server or have a 100 Mbps ethernet network, a 68030-based Mac with AppleShare 3 may be your ideal server. The computers are very inexpensive ($200 tops); so are used ethernet cards.
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You can often buy old RAM economically, allowing a large disk cache for improved latency. Ideal small group servers are the SE/30 (compact, built-in monitor), and IIci. There are advantages to faster, more powerful servers, but unless you’re using 100 Mbps ethernet, you may no see a big improvement in throughput. All this has convinced me to use my old as a home file server and get around to installing ethernet at home. Now comes the time to test the theory in. Maximum SCSI throughput from MacUser, February 1990, Buyer’s Guide 7.
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